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Post by iceiceami on Sept 7, 2015 20:22:54 GMT
So I have been toying around with this idea for a while now. I have done edgic for an ORG twice(ish) as a PW. Usually while doing it, it gets me thinking of what the people's position in the game is like, what they gotta do to win and so forth. I don't wanna indulge in too much strategizing in this game in general so this is where I will try and consolidate all of my "strategic thoughts" about the game based on whatever chats I have with players and try to extrapolate that into a pseudo-edgic rating or conjgic TM (conjecture + logic) rating. I mean I am hilariously bad at edgic to begin with so this will likely be a nice source of comedy post game too. -shrug- I like to laugh. Let's begin shall we.
This is a combined conjgic chart for the Dan, Eddie and Yul boots. Because, well, it was all one round for all intents and purposes.
Boots:
Dan THE MAN:  Poor, poor guy. Playing an abrasive shtick is hard (pun not intended). Besides Rudy IDK if anyone can make it endearing tbh. Taken out way too soon.
Yul/Eddie - Thank you for signing up but not showing up and giving everyone a free pass to Final 15. Bless.
Alexis: Hearing that she is playing up the flirty card + being "THAT GIRL" Alexis just makes me think this is Ublaz  and if it is he likely has a long ass post about strategy and explaining why he chose this alias and the Brawn/Beauty/Brain dynamic. Even if it ain't Ublaz, someone playing as Alexis AND playing up the flirty card likely know what they are doing which should likely be reflected in their confessionals.
Andrea: Yeah this person just screams OTTN.
Jay: Just based on activity levels in general, Jay is there but not all that much. His post count is among the higher ones though. Hmmmmm. Ehhh. Gonna stick with UTR for now.
Jeff: Had to go to an actual TC so I am assuming he did some stuff and confessed about it. -shrug-
John Kenney: The way he talks he just comes across as very analytical. I am assuming he has confessed in detail about his thoughts and plans for the game and fellow castaways.
Jon Misch - He was borderline annoying in the LIVE IC. But he did survive the TC when I had actually heard his name being brought up.
Kass - Bleggghhhhh. This person is annoying. But not INV1 since she did part take in the first IC. Likely has a lot of negative SPV (excluding the one from me)
Katie/Matty/Kelley - Grouping them all together because they have been around since they participated in the first IC. Haven't heard anything bad about them from anyone.
Max - Now I could have put Max as CP. In fact Max not getting a CP feels very weird. But the fact that he is juggling multiple games makes me think he probably didn't have as much time to confess. He was a huge presence in both rounds and I could have actually given him a MORP based on good SPVs. Ehhh you know what. I am gonna do that. Changed from MOR5 to MORP5. #yolo.
Michelle - She is a hard one to place as well. She isn't quite OTT, I didn't wanna give her UTR since she has been fairly active and visible. But I don't think she is really CP. Its like I defaulted to MOR3 because of not knowing what else fits her.
PG - PG is another one that gives off very OTT vibes. But unlike Andrea (UGH) she comes across as likable and pleasant. She likely has good SPVs from a few people.
Zoe - Zoe is the BEST. I think she is the most committed to this game out of everyone. She is super cool to talk to. Has a great mind for the game. I am very much looking forward to playing with Zoe.
Contenders:
ZOE like I said. The best one. I don't see anyone anywhere near her potential as of now.
JEFF is here mostly because Brawns are the only tribe to have gone to an actual TC and they have a leg up on the rest of us with regards to actually having a working alliance setup. Out of the Brawns, JEFF seems like the next best contender after ZOE to me.
If ALEXIS is using the flirt card so soon and if she is able to do a good job then she will probably make it deep. basically I had to choose at least one contender from each tribe and although it really is a tossup, ALEXIS seems like a good enough choice.
Lbr, the Brains are going to be late pre-merge/early merge fodder. PG is the one with the best chance to survive this slaughter because she is the perfect balance of nice but not too threatening. MAX is gonna make a huge target out of himself. KASS is likely not gonna make it that far and if she does it will be as a goat, no idea where MATTY stands since he is so UTR and me ... well. So yeah by process of elimination, PG has the best shot to win out of the Brains.
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Post by PW Ashley on Sept 7, 2015 21:18:38 GMT
OH MY GOD THIS IS GENIUS
I had the idea to do something LIKE this once but you're doing it in a much better way than I wouldve
This thread is fantastic don't let it die
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 10, 2015 19:50:27 GMT
Conjgic Round 2:
Boots:
Kass - She took it rather well. Classy exit. Sorry Kass.
Alexis: 160 piece rotating jigsaw in 33 minutes. Ublaz confirmed. The swap (which at the time of writing this IDER what combination of people that was since we have already had another since then) worked in her favor.
Andrea: Oh boy. I'm on the same tribe as Andrea. Lord have mercy.
Jay: He exists.
Jeff: I gotta keep an eye on this one. He is super connected I feel like. I don't wanna make the mistake of underestimating him.
John Kenney: Gonna stick with CP for him.
Jon Misch - Who?
Katie - Minimal interactions.
Kelley - Still no sign of her.
Matty - Was able to turn the tide of the votes in less than an hour I think. Dark horse imo if he keeps up the activity.
Max - He wasn't around for too long so he didn't have as significant of a presence as last time.
Michelle - She didn't do much, if at all, during this round.
PG - PG came off as rather naive in this round. Could be that I am underestimating her but she doesn't come off as a confident or assured player.
Zoe - She was a paranoid mess when deciding to boot Kass or Matty. I think she is going to overthink and overstrategize herself out of the game. Sounds familiar doesn't it? 
Contenders:
I definitely underestimated JEFF. He is a shrewd AF operator and likely in the good graces of most of the cast.
It's a bit of a tossup between ALEXIS and KATIE as to who is in the best spot among the Beauties. Being that ALEXIS is Ublaz I'll give her the edge.
ZOE, if she can turn her overstrategizing into healthy paranoia will likely be best positioned. But speaking from personal experience, it is hard to do. Still my personal favorite tho.
MATTY - anyone who can turn the vote off of themselves and onto another within a mater of hours has some serious skill (yes I am speaking from personal experience again. #FishbachforSIDayoftheDead). if he can keep up the activity, I think he has the social suave to go real deep.
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 15, 2015 20:32:31 GMT
Conjgic Round 3:
Boots:
Michelle -  Fell better soon girl. And good luck in your other game.
Not gonna do individual player thingys since we're past the round.
Contenders:
ALEXIS is at the top mainly by virtue of me knowing who it is and her seemingly having super loyal people with her. KATIE gets spot #2 because of being second in command/co-leader to ALEXIS. ZOE now finds herself surrounded by loyal people as well (incl. me) but overall her position in the game is likely worse than ALEXIS' The fourth spot is a tossup and I'm only keeping JEFF on here because no one else did anything of note this round (I should really update this more frequently for it to have some sort of a flow. SMH)
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 16, 2015 0:15:39 GMT
Conjgic Round 4:
Boots:
Kelley - Who?
Max - will be missed.
Alexis - Well she got her way. And booted my close ally. As she gains more power, I assume her confessionals become more ~villainous~
Andrea - She is really, REALLY getting on my nerves more and more 
Jay - I heard that he was the original intended boot but it got switched to Max, probably because Max was a bigger threat. Jay was NOT happy.
Jeff - I may have overestimated him (after underestimating him LOLz). He doesn't seem too active socially. But he did win the individual immunity.
John Kenney - I'm gonna keep sticking with CP for JK because it just looks like he is constantly thinking and analyzing shit in the game.
Jon Misch - Coulda been INV1. But he did vote (I think) so he had to have had some presence.
Katie - Was part of voting Max out along with Alexis. I don't think she is as skilled as Alexis is though. She is just the perceived "figurehead" if you will. If that.
Matty - Fucking piece of inac trash.
PG - I think this was the first round where PG talked strat in a way that didn't sound insanely naive. Still a little naive but not as much as before. I like her and know that she will stay loyal to me. Mostly because Katie and Alexis are doing an awful job of hiding their allegiances. TBF so am I. W/e. I like PG. Moving on.
Zoe - <3 My fave. The star of the season imo. She hustled hard in the JFP memorial even though she didn't REALLY need to. I hope she and I can make it deep together. She is the closest thing I have to a ride or die atm.
Contenders:
ALEXIS will remain unchallenged as long as she remains in the majority with KATIE being a close second. No one else really stacks up to them so the third spot goes to ZOE mainly by virtue of the fact that ZOE is the most social person in the cast. The 4th spot really should be empty tbh but since I haddddd to fill it, I gave it to JK. JK won't be targeted anytime soon unless he gets very very unlucky.
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 22, 2015 22:02:10 GMT
Conjgic Round 5: (The non-elimination round and the John Kenney boot)
Boots:
John Kenney - Absolute class act. It's a shame it had to be him and not that vile trashy Andrea
Alexis - She definitely was a major player during the non elimination round - lying to PG, faking a Jon vote. The N because I think from the outside looking in, the Alexis-Katie side are the villains whereas the Zoe-Ami side are the heroes.
Andrea - I hate her. I hate her. I hate her. I hate her. I hate her.
Jay - What an angel <3 gave up his idol to take out a threat and save a friend.
Jeff - Didn't do much of note in this round.
Jon Misch - Baaaaaaaaaaa. Fucking inactive goats should go die man.
Katie - A clooooooose shave. I gave her an M because I don't think she is as N as Alexis but she definitely would have some negative SPV from Jay
Matty - -_______-
PG - My girl <3 So glad she survived. I think I gave her a bit of positive SPV and she will have confessed in some detail at least about the failed idol play and then the Exile snipe.
Zoe - It's been a while so I don't remember if she played a huge part in this round. But she is far and beyond the most invested in the game and playing fantastically.
Contenders:
ALEXIS stays on the top mostly because of it being Ublaz really. And the situation still seems up in the air because of the uncertainty around what Matty will do. ZOE takes spot #2 since things at least kind of evened out after we lost Max. KATIE and AMI take spots #3 and #4 respectively by virtue of being the apparent second in commands to the top 2 contenders.
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 23, 2015 4:18:20 GMT
Conjgic Round 6:
Boots:
Matty - OTTPP g.oddess <3
Alexis - Matty quitting was a blow to Alexis' side. They had a prime opportunity to take out PG and couldn't do it.
Andrea - Once again fucked with exile island. God I fucking hate her so much.
Jay - I was glad to see Jay was safe. But it would have been preferable to my game had Jay left over PG potentially. Thankfully it didn't come to that.
Jeff - Wasn't of much relevance to the events of the round.
Jon Misch - Probably did some stupid shit.
Katie - Foiled again! Giving her CP because she probably had good confessionals about what went down.
PG - <3 survives again. She would make a good winner too tbh.
Zoe - The STAHHHHHH. With PG surviving, she is in so much better of a spot now.
Contenders:
ZOE finally takes her rightful place atop the contenders after a long absence. ALEXIS still at number 2 because she could still make a run at the merge. KATIE and AMI's positions remain unchanged because -shrug-
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 23, 2015 4:59:33 GMT
Conjgic Round 7:
Boots:
Jay - R.obbed Angel Zavi <3 A huge loss to the season imo.
Alexis - A definitive victory for Alexis in that she took out someone who was dead set against her. But she made the wrong decision as far as the long term implications go. Smart move would have been either Zoe or I. Or even PG for that matter.
Andrea - HATE. HER. TO. DEATH.
Dan - DanTHEMAN is baaaaaccckkkkkk! On a personal level, it was still hard to see John Kenney fall short again. On a game level, Dan being back is perfect!
Jeff - Just kinda there. Jeff isn't really too much besides a vote at this point imo with his choppy activity.
Jon Misch - Fucking inactive goat can you please GTFO sheeeeesh.
Katie - Yet ANOTHER close call. This girl is super impressive.
PG - I'm underestimating PG. She is way smarter than people realize.
Zoe - Love her so much <3 They were stupid to not take Zoe out when they had a clear shot.
Contenders:
ZOE still pretty damn comfortable on top. ALEXIS and KATIE gained a minor victory but really sealed their fates by not taking out one of the 2 people in ZOE and AMI who are literally holding the majority together. ALEXIS still very capable of going on a monstrous IC run. PG sneaks into the fourth spot instead of AMI because lets face it, AMI will find a way to fuck this up somehow.
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 25, 2015 0:05:50 GMT
Conjgic Round 8:
Boots:
Andrea - Get fucked bitch! Fuck you. This round was fucking delicious and so satisfying.
Alexis - And the balance of power swings again. This round put Alexis in a definite minority. She needs an immunity run more than ever now.
Dan - Wasn't really too much of a presence.
Jeff - There was some paranoia surrounding Jeff for me. But he was just there for the most part.
Jon Misch - Fuck this guy man.
Katie - She got some good SPV from me. But she may have gotten some bad ones from the others.
PG - Ok I definitely underestimated PG. A lottttt. She is a player. And a good one at that. Sure she wanted to keep Andrea around for info. But. I got my way at the end. Gotta keep my eye out for PG.
Zoe - Still the best <3 We talked about how we haven't been talking as much as we did at the start. And we said our heart filled goodbyes to each other when we thought one of us would get Exile-fucked again. Thankfully that didn't happen so yay!
Contenders:
ZOE firmly remains on top now that "our side" has a clear majority. PG climbs up to spot #2 because of Queen Zoe is unseated, PG is the next logical winner. KATIE stays at #3 over ALEXIS because ALEXIS now has a mammoth target on her back and the moment she doesn't win immunity, she is likely toast. If she doesn't have an idol.
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Post by sophieclarke on Sept 25, 2015 7:16:30 GMT
omg this stunning
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 27, 2015 18:36:17 GMT
Conjgic Round 9:
Boots:
Dan - THIS close to telling him to idol himself  Fuck Pandora and her fkn box.
Alexis - I didn't really buy the whole "I never bluff" narrative that she was pushing. Because. Well I have seen the guy going through a full game on the backs of a fake idol. LOL. But I wasn't going to expose myself to her plausible idol at any rate and we at least got her to use it and be done with it. Just sad it was Dan who ended up as the casualty. I would have preferred PG going. Oh well. Que sera sera.
Jeff - Another round of Jeff doing next to nothing except voting the way we told him to. I did hear from Zoe that Jeff wanted to take out Dan next. Curious but not really anything of note anymore.
Jon Misch - Fuck this twit.
Katie - My chats with Katie are getting more and more boring. And she very clearly favors talking strategy with Zoe. But it's whatever. I like her enough for the moment.
PG - Oh PG. It's hard to get a read on her. A self vote??? Fuck that. I am conflicted about how I feel about her atm but she still is sitting pretty because she never seems to be the target.
Zoe - Queen Zoe conquers all <3 She saved my butt and Jon's butt with her power and ensured Alexis had to use her OP-IMBA idol. Love her so much.
Contenders:
ZOE still rightfully is the top contender. PG is a second by default because I don't trust AMI to not fuck this up somehow. Yet AMI makes it onto the list as contender#3 since Jeff has next to no shot at winning. With all the powers gone, KATIE drops off the contenders list since she is the next target in case of ALEXIS IMMUNITY CHALLENGE WHORE AIRLINES taking off for an encore flight.
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Post by iceiceami on Sept 30, 2015 4:20:14 GMT
Conjgic Round 10:
Boots:
Alexis - If nothing else, I can always gloat about the fact that I was able to finally beat you when we went head to head. I hope you know I respect you both as a player and as a person. I am not a fan of some of your tactics - threatening with jury votes, being mean to PG on your way out etc. But that doesn't change the fact that I do look up to you in these games. Someday you and I will play a BvW game as partners. And we'll kill it.
Jeff - Well he is firmly in the corner of Zoe and I. He's just as much, if not bigger, a goat as Jon. But he's my goat
Jon Misch - FUCK. YOU.
Katie - Fuck her too. I still have like vestiges of respect for Katie and I'll give her props that she has played an amazing game for her first go around in an ORG. But I am not going to go out of my way to keep her in the game now. I thought of the dynamic between her and I as Tony-Spencer. But I don't think she has nearly as much respect for me or my game as much as I have for hers. It's w/e.
PG - Girrrrlllllll! You gave me a fucking scare. I hope this emotional turmoil of hers means that I am safe for now. I think I am. But clearly, you never do know for sure with ParanoidGirl (PG) in the mix. I really have tried my best with her. To talk more often and be the closest person to her. She has tendencies to not say much. I think she can't handle talking to multiple people at once. I am trying my damndest here man. But I always feel like I am climbing an uphill battle.
Zoe - Zoe.amazing <3 I am glad she stuck by me through that fucking rollercoaster of a vote. I mean of course me in the game is best for her too. Still. I love Zoe and I will absolutely be crushed when the time comes that I have to vote against her.
Contenders:
Despite what Rob Alexis said on her way out, PG is now the most logical front runner to win this game. It should actually be smooth sailing for her. take out ZOE. Take out AMI. take out KATIE. Pick which goat to take to F2. Win. BOOM! Really the only thing between PG and a win is ZOE pulling a rabbit out of the hat and flipping the vote onto her somehow by convincing Katie and the fucktwit Jon to vote PG. Unlikely imo. IF ZOE can win one more challenge or make it to F5, she has the win all but locked up. Now if PG and ZOE take swings at each other, that allows KATIE to potentially sneak through and maybe bust out a challenge win or two to make it to FTC with 3 of her friends sitting there itching to vote for her. The fourth spot really should be blank because Jeff and Jon can only win against each other but they hate each other and AMI will 100% fuck up her game. It's Final 6 HELLOOOOO! Time for madness to ensue.
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Post by iceiceami on Oct 2, 2015 4:09:22 GMT
Conjgic Round 11:
Boots:
Jon Misch - Good freaking riddance. He left with class though so good on him.
Jeff - I'd like to take a moment and say how funny it is that I am working so closely with Jeff. This is I think the 4th game he and I have played together. The first one was my first ever game where he was my second closest ally and ended up getting final juror because I took my closest ally to F2. Second game was a BB game where we were never truly aligned and I was a borderline inactive goat but who would have won in a landslide because the jury was so unbelievably bitter at the people who ended up being the F2 and they rightfully took me out as final juror. But the third one was perhaps the most significant - EpicFvFvF, where I was a ginormous douchenozzle to him for pretty much no reason other than the fact that I was annoyed and wanted to vent at someone . It's a pretty funny up and down dynamic and I am glad to have had this mostly positive one with him. I know Jacob is a pretty chill dude IRL so it's been fun playing with him again.
Katie - I don't buy that Katie is an IRL girl. After the whole public spat she offered to work with me to vote out Zoe. Plz. I am not going to get rid of my biggest shield as early as F6. We made a pact to work together next round. At this point I have deals with every single person left -____- I am such an idiot.
PG - PG tried to convince me to vote Zoe. But not doing that. She was the swing vote and could have been again this round but I got a vote doubler from EI which completely negated any power PG could have had. It's just a matter of time now.
Zoe - And that's all folks. Zoe.amazing is you winner of PURE 4. GJ. Well played. Truly the most deserving winner this season could have asked for.
Contenders:
ZOE.amazing. All the way. No contest. KATIE climbs a few spots after a very impressive display in the challenge and displaying a legitimate shot at making an immunity run to the end. The last 2 contenders are interchangeable and AMI only ranks higher than PG on account of being more competent at ICs. But this is ZOE's game to lose.
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Post by iceiceami on Oct 4, 2015 21:39:32 GMT
Conjgic Round 12:
Boots:
Zoe - And with that, the most deserving person in the game is out. I suck so much tbh.
Jeff - He showed his true allegiance last round. Can't say I am entirely surprised. Oh well. That F2 of me and him is probably not happening now.
Katie - It is amazing at how well this girl has played. She would also make a great winner. And with it being her first game it would just be an all around fantastic story.
PG - Didn't do much last round besides reiterating she wants to vote Zoe.
Contenders:
So with ZOE.amazing out of the way, it is now KATIE's game to lose. Especially with a LIVE challenge coming up. If KATIE somehow gets taken out, PG is the next logical contender. AMI and JEFF are on there just for the sake of having 4 contenders but in an unlikely F2 of AMI and JEFF, AMI has the edge.
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Post by iceiceami on Oct 6, 2015 4:40:46 GMT
Conjgic Round 13:
Boots:
Katie - I DESPERATELY hoped Katie would accept my proposal to make it OG Athena g.oddess V OG Aphrodite g.oddess at FTC. I meant every word I will do my ABSOLUTE BEST to make it to FTC.
Jeff - To quote an old friend of mine, "A savior I never expected". That was Jeff. He has my jury vote even if he cuts me at F3. I am not sure if he can win over PG or I but he earned my eternal gratitude in this game with that F4 vote.
PG - I will prefix this by saying I do love PG. She has been my girl since Day 1. That being said, she is wishy washy AF. As soon as the tie vote went up, she messaged me saying "Ami, I am sorry for voting you... I just thought Jeff was voting you and I went with him" -_- And then as I was doing the fire making I get this "#RootingForTheOtherSideOfMyBrain" and then after I won - "OMG OMG OMG <33333333333333333" I mean. That's kind of a messed up way to play. I have indulged in my fair share of lying. But I don't think anything has ever been quite this transparent. If I win FIC, I will absolutely NOT take PG to the end. Even if that means I will lose to Jeff. At least that's how I am feeling right now.
Contenders:
I have listed PG as top contender because if either JEFF or PG win FIC, they are more likely to take the other to the end. I don't think I can pull another rabbit out of the hat and convince either of them to take me to F2. And in that F2, I think PG has the edge because JEFF's activity dropped for a majority of the merge. IF AMI can win FIC, she has a chance to win the game with votes from DanTHEMAN, UblazAlexis, Katie.goddess and Zoe.amazing potentially. But knowing AMI, she will somehow fuck that up too >_>
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and if it is he likely has a long ass post about strategy and explaining why he chose this alias and the Brawn/Beauty/Brain dynamic. Even if it ain't Ublaz, someone playing as Alexis AND playing up the flirty card likely know what they are doing which should likely be reflected in their confessionals. 
Fell better soon girl. And good luck in your other game.
Fuck Pandora and her fkn box.
